{"id":2476,"date":"2009-10-08T18:54:28","date_gmt":"2009-10-09T01:54:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mightyohm.com\/blog\/?p=2476"},"modified":"2015-09-26T11:11:04","modified_gmt":"2015-09-26T18:11:04","slug":"guess-the-cable-length-to-win-stickers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mightyohm.com\/blog\/2009\/10\/guess-the-cable-length-to-win-stickers\/","title":{"rendered":"Guess the cable length to win stickers!"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3>Part 1:<\/h3>\n<p>An HP 3312A function generator is connected to an Agilent DSO1014A oscilloscope via a length of coaxial cable.\u00a0 The function generator is set to generate a square wave of frequency 1MHz.<\/p>\n<p>Based on the screen capture below, what is the length of the coax cable?<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2474\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2474\" style=\"width: 400px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mightyohm.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/10v_unterm.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"2474\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mightyohm.com\/blog\/10v_unterm\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/mightyohm.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/10v_unterm.png\" data-orig-size=\"320,240\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Unterminated Cable\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/mightyohm.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/10v_unterm.png\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2474\" title=\"Unterminated Cable\" src=\"http:\/\/www.mightyohm.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/10\/10v_unterm.png\" alt=\"Unterminated Cable\" width=\"400\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2474\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Agilent DSO1014A Screen Capture<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The first person to post a comment with:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> the correct answer within \u00b110% of the actual measured length<\/li>\n<li>a general explanation of how you arrived at this number (show your work!)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>gets some free <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mightyohm.com\/blog\/stickers\/\">stickers<\/a> as a reward!<\/p>\n<p>Hints:<\/p>\n<ul><\/ul>\n<ol>\n<li>The coax is labeled RG58A\/U.<\/li>\n<li>The input impedance of the DSO1014A is nominally 1M\u03a9 + 18pF.<\/li>\n<li>In case it&#8217;s not obvious, the scope photo shows two curves.\u00a0 The bottom curve is a zoomed in version of the top one, showing the rising edge only.\u00a0 This means that the time per division for the bottom curve is different from the top curve.\u00a0 Thankfully, Agilent shows the time\/div at the bottom of each so you don&#8217;t have to guess!<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<ul><\/ul>\n<h3>Part 2 (Extra Credit):<\/h3>\n<p>The function generator claims to have an output impedance of 50\u03a9.\u00a0 Is this true?\u00a0 Can you make a rough estimate of what the actual output impedance is, based on the screen capture above?<\/p>\n<p><em>Note: Random guessing is not allowed.\u00a0 Please show that you made some honest attempt to solve the problem, even if it is by unconventional means!<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Part 1: An HP 3312A function generator is connected to an Agilent DSO1014A oscilloscope via a length of coaxial cable.\u00a0 The function generator is set to generate a square wave of frequency 1MHz. Based on the screen capture below, what is the length of the coax cable? The first person to post a comment with: &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/mightyohm.com\/blog\/2009\/10\/guess-the-cable-length-to-win-stickers\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Guess the cable length to win stickers!<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[5],"tags":[290,289,292,221,291,222,115,223],"class_list":["post-2476","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-electronics","tag-cable","tag-coax","tag-contest","tag-dso1014a","tag-hp-3312a","tag-oscilloscope","tag-stickers","tag-test-equipment"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pioCd-DW","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1858,"url":"https:\/\/mightyohm.com\/blog\/2009\/05\/my-new-oscilloscope-the-agilent-dso1014a\/","url_meta":{"origin":2476,"position":0},"title":"My new oscilloscope &#8211; the Agilent DSO1014A","author":"Jeff","date":"May 26, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"Over the Memorial Day weekend I had a chance to spend a little bit of time with my new Agilent DSO1014A oscilloscope. 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You hold down two unlabeled buttons in the System\/Utility menu and\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Electronics&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Electronics","link":"https:\/\/mightyohm.com\/blog\/category\/electronics\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":2539,"url":"https:\/\/mightyohm.com\/blog\/2009\/11\/agilent-dso1000-firmware-update-confirms-rigol-connection\/","url_meta":{"origin":2476,"position":2},"title":"Agilent firmware update confirms Rigol connection","author":"Jeff","date":"November 5, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"Last week, Agilent released a firmware update for their 1000 series oscilloscopes.\u00a0 The 1000 series, Agilent's lowest end line, is a family of powerful yet reasonably priced digital storage oscilloscopes that includes my DSO1014A. When I downloaded the firmware update and copied it to a USB stick for transfer to\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Electronics&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Electronics","link":"https:\/\/mightyohm.com\/blog\/category\/electronics\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"Rigol Technologies","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mightyohm.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/rigol1.png?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":3541,"url":"https:\/\/mightyohm.com\/blog\/2011\/01\/tips-for-finding-test-equipment-service-manuals\/","url_meta":{"origin":2476,"position":3},"title":"Tips for finding test equipment service manuals","author":"Jeff","date":"January 20, 2011","format":false,"excerpt":"When I buy a piece of electronic test equipment, the first thing I do is turn it on and see if it works. \u00a0This is the moment of truth: was that awesome eBay find the killer deal I thought it was? \u00a0(Hint: If it's missing case screws and came with\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Books and Resources&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Books and Resources","link":"https:\/\/mightyohm.com\/blog\/category\/books-and-resources\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"2009:10:01 02:23:53","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mightyohm.com\/files\/flickr\/3972358391_f92e1e1539.jpg?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":2492,"url":"https:\/\/mightyohm.com\/blog\/2009\/11\/test-equipment-pr0n-the-hp-3312a\/","url_meta":{"origin":2476,"position":4},"title":"Test Equipment Pr0n: The HP 3312A","author":"Jeff","date":"November 19, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"A few weeks ago, I purchased an HP 3312A 12MHz function generator for the lab.\u00a0 After living without a decent signal source for years, I figured that it would bepo handy to have a good general purpose function generator around.\u00a0 A quick visit to eBay and a few clicks later,\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Electronics&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Electronics","link":"https:\/\/mightyohm.com\/blog\/category\/electronics\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"HP 3312A Repairs","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mightyohm.com\/files\/flickr\/3972661321_e1b719d909.jpg?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":2160,"url":"https:\/\/mightyohm.com\/blog\/2009\/07\/tonys-diamond-chop-saw-part-1\/","url_meta":{"origin":2476,"position":5},"title":"Tony&#8217;s Diamond Chop Saw (Part 1)","author":"Tony","date":"July 31, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"This is guest blogger Tony reporting on my latest project, a very small, precise circular chop saw.\u00a0 Why would anyone\u00a0want to build such a saw you might ask?\u00a0 Well, to make parts for another project of course! 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